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First Passes: Trumpeter's Voroshilovets
jimbrae
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Posted: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 05:22 AM UTC
I've got the suspension units 95% finished. I've also made a start on the lower tub. No problems encountered so far - in fact the opposite. Instructions are clear and quality and accuracy is first-class:











pgb3476
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Posted: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 05:50 AM UTC
Looks good.....I guess Trumpy switched to TAN plastic over there usual grey...does the tan plastic have the same working characteristics as the grey?

Thanks....
Gorizont
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Posted: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 06:55 AM UTC
Thanks for sharing this build!
This one is a very interesting vehicle and one of my many ideas was to buy/ build a complete russian set. (this tractor, B4 gun, crew-set and ? )
In big Tīs catalogue was announced also an "inspection-person-set" including a very famous man.

Perhaps I will buy these kits, when I found a good solution for the B4īs barrel.

Also my question is; is the tan-colored plastic weaker/ more softly than the grey one?
I had some problems with some of Italeriīs kits.


greetings...
Soeren
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Posted: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 07:00 AM UTC

Quoted Text

does the tan plastic have the same working characteristics as the grey?



Quoted Text

is the tan-colored plastic weaker/ more softly than the grey one?


The colour has nothing to do with plastic properties ... its only a colour added. This could have been the result of feedback from customers, who prefer to work with tan coloured plastic?

The details so far look excellent. Very clean. Looking forward to more of this build Jim,
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Posted: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 07:16 AM UTC
Hi

Soeren, JB model has a turned alu barrel for the B4.
www.jbmodel.eu

Very nice and just a few Euros.


Greetings

Nils
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Posted: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 08:25 AM UTC

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The colour has nothing to do with plastic properties ... its only a colour added. This could have been the result of feedback from customers, who prefer to work with tan coloured plastic?



Hmm, when I saw this, I thought about a new type of plastic.
I know, that the color has nothing to do with the properties.
But itīs possible... through a new/ different material.

greetings...
Soeren
jimbrae
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Posted: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 12:15 PM UTC
I guess if I had seen the styrene as something different I would have mentioned it? It's TAN, not GREY - apart from that... Not a lot...
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Posted: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 - 12:22 PM UTC
Jim, I'm looking forward to some more pictures as you progress with this build. It's an interesting looking kit, and am thinking about adding one to my collection.
jimbrae
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Posted: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 06:07 AM UTC
Another sub-assembly 95% finished. This is the rear crew compartment. Simple construction - everything slots in nicely. However, i'll swear there is a slight warping on the baseplate. It doesn't affect the fit tremendously but it DOES leave a couple of annoying gaps.

What the photographs show (by some miracle ) is the 'graining' of the wood-effect. It SHOULD disappear after painting as I still feel it's TOO heavy.

I've shown the compartment with the Tilt on as well. This really is a brilliant piece of moulding although in a contrary spirit i've decided NOT to use it. Two possibilities have come up. The first is scratchbuilding the RIGID shelter - simple enough as i'd use the original as a template. The second, which is more tempting, is to add the frame for the tilt - that way, I could add some figures and perhaps a load of personal gear?

Here are the photos of the next Sub-Assembly:

















Next up SHOULD be tracks and finishing the running-gear...
pgb3476
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Posted: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 04:10 PM UTC
Looks good....I wonder what is under those two domed metal compartments at the front of the bed.....I guess I should pull my copy of TYAGATSHI off the book shelf.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 07:19 PM UTC
Looks like it's coming together nicely. I don't think I've built a Trumpy kit before but this might just be my first one. Open top and figures sounds interesting, looking forward to it!

Cheers!
Stefan
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Posted: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 08:29 PM UTC
Very nice, and very tempting! Do my eyes deceive me, or is that idler wheel suspiciously like a Sherman road wheel?...

Tom
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Posted: Friday, August 06, 2010 - 02:36 AM UTC
No way on the Sherman wheel. This was designed and built before the Sherman.
jimbrae
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Posted: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 05:02 AM UTC
Dry-run fitting cargo compartment, front bonnet, cab & Fllor. Most expensive snap-together kit i've seen yet. Everything goes together beautifully.






























pgb3476
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Posted: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 07:23 AM UTC
Jim, looks good so far and I'm pleased to hear it when together very easily...I'm very interested to hear how the tracks/fenders go on.

In the US, these kinds of kits are called Snap-tight...lol.
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Posted: Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 10:43 PM UTC
This kit looks so good, and you are making it so fast, but... I prefer the gray colour plastic
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Posted: Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 11:07 PM UTC

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Hi

Soeren, JB model has a turned alu barrel for the B4.
www.jbmodel.eu

Very nice and just a few Euro



Actually, JB Model are just a retailer, like Blast Models, for the RB Model range.

http://www.rbmodel.com/index.php?action=products&cat=news

Cheers,

Christophe

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Posted: Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 11:50 PM UTC

Although this is looking great, I wonder will the gaps where the cross beams on the back hull go through, be visible when finished?
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Posted: Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 04:15 AM UTC
How would the driver get his legs / feet through those shift levers to push the pedals ? Any prototype photos of cab floor , Frenchy ? Very nice build so far .
Any word on AM hoops for the bed for those of us who can't bend 2 pcs of wire the same and tend to set fire to the workbench when attempting to solder ?
jimbrae
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Posted: Sunday, August 29, 2010 - 08:22 PM UTC

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Any word on AM hoops for the bed for those of us who can't bend 2 pcs of wire the same and tend to set fire to the workbench when attempting to solder ?



I'll hopefully be starting on them this week. The biggest help is the one-piece tilt. I'm going to be using it as a 'former' (from the inside) to get the correct curve on the hoops. It's simpler than other vehicles as the three attachment points are moulded onto the cargo bed side panels. Now, the most detailed photo I have, of the hoops, is of a German vehicle. Many of the photos show three things:

1) With the (canvas) Tilt fitted

2) With the hoops removed

3) In some of the German photos, the Tilt has been replaced with a rigid (plywood?) shelter-type structure which follows the same dimensions. This should be the easiest to model as, once again, the kit-supplied tilt will give the correct dimensions.

Another point, which is worth thinking about, is if the tilt is used, then i'd suggest replacing the kit-supplied clear plastic windows and replacing them with clear polythene. That's how they should look - the plastic parts look too much like glass.

Thre are , as far as I know, no more detailed images of the cab interior.
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Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 03:31 AM UTC
Nice work, Jim!

Will add this one to my wish list along with the howitzer.