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Trumpeter British Challenger 2
vonHengest
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Posted: Friday, July 09, 2010 - 06:32 PM UTC
James: looks like a nice choice of kit. I favour the desertised version and have a couple of the Tamiya kits in my stash. I look forward to watching your build progress.

Darren: Thanks for the review on this kit, I've been debating whether or not to buy one and your review is very helpful.
Also I was curious what you meant by your comment:

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James it really depends on if you want the meanest looking which to my mind is the desertised Challenger 2 which would require you to buy 2 kits (I would suggest this kit and the Trumpeter desertised version for ease), the other option would require you to apply the anti slip coating. Or you could build this from the box and have a reasonably accurate Challenger 2.

Would you mind expanding a little on what you meant about the desertised version?
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Posted: Friday, July 09, 2010 - 08:02 PM UTC
I believe that the Tamiya kit does not have an anti slip texture replicated on the model, the new Trumpeter kit does. the Trumpeter desertised version of the Challenger 2 does not have an anti slip coating either but the parts to make this version should fit straight on the new model (I believe), I do not believe that the Tamiya offering will fit and this means applying your own anti slip coating. I just like the mean look of the desertised version of the Challenger 2.

The desertised version of the Challenger 2 have skirts below the armour which almost completly obscure the tracks, which are not present on this kit.
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 04:44 PM UTC
Darren and Jeremy, thank you guys for the helpful replies. I'm leaning toward the Tamiya kit and will add the anti-slip coating.
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 06:14 PM UTC
If that is the decision you make I wish you luck with your efforts James. I did pay special attention to the anti slip coating on the Challenger 2 at Bovingtons tank fest this year, and on the example I viewed it is a very fine coating.
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Posted: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 06:56 PM UTC
James: sure thing, I'll be doubly interested to watch your build progress with a Tamiya desertised kit if you choose to do so.

Darren: If I correctly understand what you are telling us, 1) The Tamiya desertised kit is good but needs the anti slip coating applied, and 2) The Trumpeter desertised kit does not have the anti slip coating either, but you can use the necessary parts from the new Trumpeter Challenger 2 as direct replacements?
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Posted: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 06:11 AM UTC

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James: sure thing, I'll be doubly interested to watch your build progress with a Tamiya desertised kit if you choose to do so.

Darren: If I correctly understand what you are telling us, 1) The Tamiya desertised kit is good but needs the anti slip coating applied, and 2) The Trumpeter desertised kit does not have the anti slip coating either, but you can use the necessary parts from the new Trumpeter Challenger 2 as direct replacements?


Yes Jeremy that is the case as I understand it, and while I don't know about the accuracy of the Tamiya model we do know about Tamiya's ease of build.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 12:48 PM UTC
Thanks Darren, you're a big help as always. I'll keep my two Tamiya kits for when I just want something fun to throw together, and I'll look for the set of Trumpeter kits for a nice kitbashing project in the future
mario50
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Posted: Saturday, May 19, 2012 - 11:19 PM UTC
Price labole of 25.99 paund colud took off
ArmoredGunSystem
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Posted: Sunday, October 07, 2018 - 08:58 PM UTC
Looking for a Black Knight/TES conversion model or conversion like this-

https://i.imgur.com/4KbctLE.jpg

Oh. Wow.

Anyone? Bueller?


Tanks All, AGS
frank01
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Posted: Monday, October 08, 2018 - 05:18 AM UTC
the TES resin kit is not in production anymore (castoff models and cromwell models), you may find oneoff on e bay, very very rare kits.
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Posted: Monday, October 08, 2018 - 05:44 AM UTC
I wonder why Trumpeter have never made slat armor for their stryker serie, while they have made it for this Challenger.

PE slat armors need a lot of time and dexterity to be built.

And a question: why US combat rations for a british vehicle ? No sense.
ArmoredGunSystem
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Posted: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 - 02:36 AM UTC
Thanks Frank...

I've seen the Cast Off conversion and while impressive, it seems to have the older style of MCS with the cut out loupes. The newer (Megatron?) version of that system has what looks to be a quilted rubberized blanket over most of the hull.

I'm wondering if anyone has tried to emulate that with Milliput and a diamond stamp or whatever.

Alternately, are there Legends/Black Dog/Live options for the Enforcer RWS and the AMAP-ADS active protection system?

Maybe the best way to do this is on a system component level...
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