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Armor and AFVs of the IDF army from 1947-today.
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IDF M1 Sherman water cans question
HeavyArty
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Posted: Friday, February 19, 2010 - 05:45 AM UTC
Thanks guys. Glad you like it so far.

Caveman - Give it a try, it will make your decals disappear and look much better.
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Posted: Friday, February 19, 2010 - 12:41 PM UTC
Hay "Gino" should I paint the full model or can I only paint the areas were I need to place decals?
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Posted: Friday, February 19, 2010 - 01:24 PM UTC
You can do it either way. I like to gloss the whole model, then apply the decals and let them dry well. Then I put on another coat of gloss to level it all out. After that has dried, I put a couple coats of dullcoat to flatten it all down again.

Good luck.
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Posted: Friday, February 19, 2010 - 07:01 PM UTC
Looks sweet, Gino! Nice to see a non-OD Sherman for a change - neat topic
Terry
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Posted: Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 04:09 PM UTC
She is done. I added MB Models indi-link tracks and modified some of them by cutting the ends off AFV Club T97 (M48/M60) spare tracks with stays to be T80 spare tracks. I also added various stowage from the spares box and tied it all down with some ship's rigging string.

Here she is:









More pics here.

As always, all comments are welcomed.
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Posted: Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 10:49 PM UTC
Gino - As always very nice work!!

Rounds Complete!!
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Posted: Monday, February 22, 2010 - 03:33 AM UTC
Thanks Mike. It was a fun build.
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Posted: Monday, February 22, 2010 - 01:57 PM UTC
Oh man "Gino" that turned out realy well but there's a slit shine to her or that may be the photos and flash, but don't thing that takes any thing away from you work man this was a realy fast and mistake free build "Magnificent" work "Gino".
I feel I must build that M51 now as well, but it would take me way to long as I put to much work in to the little bitty details like in my Merkava.

Still "Gino" Magnificent work man, can't wate till your next project.
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Posted: Monday, February 22, 2010 - 04:02 PM UTC
Always good to see those M1s built up, everybody seem to get stuck on the M50s and M51s. Since you built this for someone else it might not be a big deal, but for those who might want to do their own, thought I might point out some details you missed.

First is the infantry call box.



It seems all M1s were set up for the canvas mantlet cover. It's hard to find a picture without it, but I found a couple. If the cover is not mounted the mounting points are still there (outlined in red). Also you missed the searchlight mount (outlined in yellow).



Even the early M1s had these items. Another thing is the horn guard cover (outlined in blue). That one is not really a big deal because I've seen M1s without it, but most have it.



Overall a nice kit.
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Posted: Monday, February 22, 2010 - 09:09 PM UTC
Hay I have an old Italeri Sherman that I didn't know what to do to it but in your last photo.
I have an idea of what I may do to it now thanks.
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Posted: Monday, February 22, 2010 - 11:43 PM UTC
Thanks guys. The main referance pic I used (below) has the infantry call box on the left side hull and no cover over the horn. Guess I missed the search light mount. I'm sure there were some that didn't use the mantlet cover too, since it is removable. Oh well, too late now, its already off to the customer.

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Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 04:26 AM UTC
Looks good Gino. I'm sure the customer is happy.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 04:46 AM UTC

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Thanks guys. The main referance pic I used (below) has the infantry call box on the left side hull and no cover over the horn. Guess I missed the search light mount. I'm sure there were some that didn't use the mantlet cover too, since it is removable. Oh well, too late now, its already off to the customer.



That's not an infantry call box on the side. It's the first aid box mounted on post-war U.S. tanks. Here is a M4A3E8 in Korea. First aid box outlined in red, infantry call box ( different from the Israeli style) out lined in yellow.



First aid box on M1.



Infantry call box on M1.



They are not the same.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 04:51 AM UTC
Oh well, guess I missed that too. I'll store it away for future referance. Like I said, its too late now. Its already off to the very happy customer.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 05:35 AM UTC
Superb build Gino I'm sure your customer is really going to enjoy it. Not all Shermans had the search light mounts i'l dig some pictures if you want. One thing about Israeli armour there is sometimes the trouble finding enough reference and information.

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Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 05:40 AM UTC

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Not all Shermans had the search light mounts i'l dig some pictures if you want.



If you have one of an IDF M1 Sherman with HVSS without the mount from the 1967 war, I'd sure like to see it. I doub't you'll find one.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 05:50 AM UTC

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Not all Shermans had the search light mounts i'l dig some pictures if you want.



If you have one of an IDF M1 Sherman with HVSS without the mount from the 1967 war, I'd sure like to see it. I doub't you'll find one.



i'll dig it up

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Posted: Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 06:38 AM UTC
Same old Gary-O. Gino, I'm glad he decided to be so helpful. That is after he knew it was too late to fix anything. What a wonderful guy. Gary, your passive aggressiveness still shines through. A true prince. Are you still wearing cammies to the club meetings?
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Posted: Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 03:09 PM UTC

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Same old Gary-O. Gino, I'm glad he decided to be so helpful. That is after he knew it was too late to fix anything. What a wonderful guy. Gary, your passive aggressiveness still shines through. A true prince. Are you still wearing cammies to the club meetings?



I don't have a clue who you are, and from your post you are mistaken and don't have a clue who I am. When it comes to help I've seen nothing that you've been helpful with. Are you that ashamed of people knowing who you are that you don't use your name?
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Posted: Sunday, July 04, 2010 - 08:01 AM UTC
Gino;
Excellent build. The items overlooked have already been mentioned so I wont rehash old news. I like your finish and weather technique. what base color did you use. Acrylic or Enamel. it looks very much the part of a 67' M1 minus the items left off. Thru my research I have found that there were actually (3) diff. distinct models of the M1. So there is some leadway. All in All the recipiant should be pleased. Todd

PS: Guys no personal attacks, cant we all get along!!!
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Posted: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 01:04 PM UTC
Great stuff, Gino! If anyone needs photgraphic reference of IDF Shermans, let me know. I've got plenty of them...