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M3 Grant Command Tank
panzerserra
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Posted: Monday, February 08, 2010 - 11:29 AM UTC
Well ... I could not resist and started a new weird project ...

As always, it´s all started with this picture that I found in my books while studying WWII:



The Grants were not a top in tank terms. High profile, tops, visible, with sponson type WWI, with a good 75mm gun but with only a 37mm gun in the swivel turret ....

But they had their qualities: sturdy, tough and very, very spacious ...
and the British loved cars spacious as cars command (there is seen Mammuth AEC) ...

As result: some Grants turned cars command ... The devil is that cars command attract enemy fire as honey attracts bees ...

As that time, the British used preferentially the Shermans, they transformed the look of Grants to looks similar to Shermans ... They used steel plates as a new front shield, like the prow of an M4, removed the 75mm and the 37mm guns, to increase space for radio equipment.

They set up a dummy gun and still had the whim of fabricating a structure for a fake fan, characteristic of the M4, in the new front glacis of Grant ...

By distance, the Grant like all others Shermans , preserving the Commander ...



But what was written on the side of this Grant, in this photo??

The British love put names of famous hotels on their Command Cars (Dorchester, the English name of Mammoth, is the name a famous hotel in London, famous for space and comfort ...).

There is a famous hotel with a name beginning with CLARI... and ending with ES ...

Google and bingo:

CLARIDGES HOTEL!!!!





Solved the historical problem, go to the construction of beast:

Using a hull of a Tamiya Grant scrap:


Turret and fenders of a Grant Academy. (The kit is rotten, hull and boggies wrong ..)


The tracks are waffle type exchanged for Dragon M4 Sherman II, wheels from my scrap box (Dragon too) . Tamiya´s wheels are wrong and the Academy are early type...


The drive sprockets are Tamiya, but narrow for Dragon´s track: time for a little surgery:


and:


Frankenstein is coming ...


... and improved the Grant´s rear because the Tamiya´s kit was all wrong: Parts of the scraps box ...


... and made a ladder for access;


Gentlemen, looking the photo in more detail, I discovered one thing ... look at the arrow!


It seems that a plaque was placed at the base of the Grant turret, "closing her neck" , maybe to look like the M4??

In fact, it seems that plate go to the chin turret ...

What do you think?
AlanL
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Posted: Monday, February 08, 2010 - 12:10 PM UTC
Hi Marcus,

Another inspirational build, and a great use for the old Tamiya hull. Excellent stuff I shall follow with interest developments as this would make a good project.

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Monday, February 08, 2010 - 05:07 PM UTC
Thanks, Alan...

Stay tunned !!!
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Posted: Monday, February 08, 2010 - 05:36 PM UTC
Hi Marcos, I've never seen that variant before. Can you tell me what book you found it in ?
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Posted: Monday, February 08, 2010 - 06:44 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Marcos, I've never seen that variant before. Can you tell me what book you found it in ?



Pat;
In this book, page 25
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Posted: Monday, February 08, 2010 - 06:59 PM UTC
Very cool project.

Darryl
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Posted: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 11:13 AM UTC
Thanks, Darryl !!!!

i love oddballs!!!

Soon, new pictures...

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Posted: Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 06:17 PM UTC
Well, Lads...

New stages in this building:
Finishing the front glacis:


Radio antennal in the sponson, now empty of the 75mm gun:



Primming:



...and yellow basic color:




Using a clear sheet of decal+ laserprint:


And Future+decals+oils:








Next : more weathering !!!!!

regards, from Brazil



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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 01:16 AM UTC
Hi Marcus,

Excellent stuff, only thing I noticed is that you need to add the drivers periscope. It was missing on both the Tamiya and Academy kits but is a fairly easy fix,

Looking excellent. More brillient stuff.

Al
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 03:12 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Marcus,
Excellent stuff, only thing I noticed is that you need to add the drivers periscope. It was missing on both the Tamiya and Academy kits but is a fairly easy fix,
Looking excellent. More brillient stuff.
Al



Uops !!!!

You're right!!



I forgot this little BIG detail ...



Thank you, Alan !!!!!!


You rock !!!!

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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:12 PM UTC
Hi Marcus,

Your welcome, sorry I didn't notice it earlier on. Also on the rear plate there needs to be a hole through which the starting handle could be inserted, again missing from both kits:



I know about this one becasue I missed it too



Ignore the bullet holes

Al
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 06:21 PM UTC
Alan, I,m fix the periscope and make the canvas in the rear deck of Grant. The little hole in the rear I´ll make tomorrow...




Next, paint the canvas and cover the painting with flat varnish...
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 09:11 PM UTC
Hey Marco,
That looks great !
Can't wait to see the finished product !!
I've seen photos of this beast, never expected to see a model of it built !!!
Another masterpiece from Senor' Serra !!!
Cheers

jjumbo
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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 12:43 PM UTC
Thanks, Jukes !!!

Well, Lads, I finish the beast...another real oddball !!!

The pictures::

















Looks similar??!!!




Thanks for the tips, Gents....

Regards
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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 03:25 PM UTC
Stunning results Marcos.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 05:11 PM UTC
Thanks, Jeff!!!!

all the best !!

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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 05:22 PM UTC
Hey Marcos !
Bravissimo !!
Beautiful work on a rare beast !!!
Cheers

jjumbo
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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 06:03 PM UTC
Muito obrigado, Jukes !!!

regards, from Brazil !!!!!

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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 12:50 AM UTC
Hi Marcus,

I enjoyed the build a lot, excellent stuff and a cracking finish on this British Bestie.

Another classic for your collection

Al
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Posted: Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 02:15 PM UTC
Thanks, Alan !!!!

all the best !!