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Der Rote Flieger in the box!
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Posted: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 08:53 AM UTC

Following our good Rowan''s announcement of Eduard''s premier release of kit #1136 Eduard decided also to release a "Special Red Box" edition. with additional "plastic" for a second DR.I (No photoetch or masks.)

Since Eduard''s original kit disappeared in the mail I offer this as a fill in. Eduard has promised another review kit so there may be a build yet.

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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
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Posted: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 09:35 AM UTC
Awesome work Stephen!

Following Stephen's announcement - we planned to cover this release far earlier, but Eduard's original shipment of samples has disappeared into postal never-never-land!

It's a huge credit to Eduard that they've volunteered to send another package - for which I'll risk ridicule by tackling the Dr.I as one of my rare WW1 sorties in a Full-Build (Eek!)... and, should the original shipment ever arrive, it'll form the core of several special competitions. So, keep your fingers crossed everyone that the mail service finally comes good - because the potential prizes will definitely be worth winning !

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 01:48 PM UTC
Hey, wouldn't that full size Blue Max look great with my tux?

But seriously folks, I look forward to buying and building a few Dr.Is.

Thanks Stephen
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Posted: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 01:48 PM UTC
I was wondering why there wasn't a review or build on this yet . My just came in at the hooby shop #1136 . I pick it up on friday . I'm looking forward to the review of the Fokker DR.I . I have enough of the D.V to last me a life time now . Thanks for the up date
Cheers
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Posted: Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 12:27 AM UTC
Hi Stephen!

Thats' a Top Class review!

I would rate kit #1136 at 90% and kit #1136X at 70% for the reasons you've mentioned...

Eduard have just updated their website with pictures of a finished Dr.1 model...



Jean-Luc
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Posted: Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 04:09 AM UTC
Ok everyone I think I got the bugs out.

1. Homepage review image up and running. . .check!
2. Chapter icons in place . . .check!
3. Time for a nap. . .checkzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
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Posted: Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 04:11 AM UTC

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Hi Stephen!

Thats' a Top Class review!

I would rate kit #1136 at 90% and kit #1136X at 70% for the reasons you've mentioned...

Eduard have just updated their website with pictures of a finished Dr.1 model...



Jean-Luc



Hey Jean-Luc! Should we tell them that the Axial propeller decals are upside down?
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Posted: Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 02:14 AM UTC
Here is a comparison of the Eduard kit to the original Fok. Dr.I 425/17.

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Posted: Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 10:54 AM UTC
Hi all

Eduard's original package never arrived, but I'm delighted (and relieved!) to say that the replacement landed safe and sound at Castle Aeroscale today! So, true to my word, I'll start a build thread on the Dr.1 as soon as I get a chance (trying to balance it with other Review commitments). I'll work basically OOB to give Stephen maximum scope to add the details.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 07:42 PM UTC
Greetings all;
I had a request to know more about MvR's Fokker Dr.I 425/17. Since Roxter will be building the Eduard kit I decided to address it here.


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Greetings Roxter; Of course. The Cross decals for 577/17 or the Fromherz Dr.I profile would be contemporary with 425/17 or 152/17 . I recommend the wing crosses have their white borders thickened slightly.




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And of course all over red finish. What about the stencil data and Werke nummer?
Thanx in advance!!



This thread is not really about Dr.I 425/17 but here is an older build of mine. Most research fiends and historians know that Dr.I 425/17 was custom painted for MvR at the Schwerin factory. Though there was no olive green streaked camouflage on the upper surfaces. Some authentic samples we have show light blue paint under the red paint. But chipped paint from the upper surface only shows the clear doped fabric under the red.

The stencils were reproduced but evidently in the field were overpainted when the crosses were changed. This is still a point of contention to many. I use Testors Insignia Red ( 8 parts) with Testors Brown #1166 ( 3 parts.) The Testors Brown is a light color with yellow/orange terra cotta color. More a medium brown. This creates a very flat 'Indian Lake Red' that R. Rimell avowed in his Windsock special 1988. Thoroughly mixed its great. I keep a bottle of this mixture around and use it mixed with other colours to lighten or darken as needed. When you do it its the unmistakable blood red. Also A. Toelle has seen good samples of MvR fabric (German 50 count calendared fabric) he seems to agree. The information we have on 425/17 can be verified in 'Richthofen' by the late A.E.Ferko Albatros Pub. Ltd.

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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 06:03 AM UTC
That's very interesting!!
What about 425.17 with early style crosses? Did it feature Werk Nummer?
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 08:07 AM UTC

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That's very interesting!! What about 425?17 with early style crosses? Did it feature Werk Nummer?




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". . .The stencils were reproduced but evidently in the field were overpainted when the crosses were changed. This is still a point of contention to many. . ."



This is all we know according to exiting verified fabric samples.

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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 02:00 PM UTC
Can I just say...

I saw this in the box last week at IPMS (Vic Hobby Center in Melbourne always bring along a big box of new releases for us to drool over... and purchase if we wish (I came home with the Trumpeter 1/72 Vickers Wellington Mk IIIc (Don't tell my wife!) Will that qualify as Early Aviation?)). The Dr.I is a lot more subtle in real life than photos indicate.

I was actually considering handing over some readies when I saw the $130 (Australian) Price tag. I could get a Montex 1/32 Fury for that!

Cheers,

Hugh
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 05:36 AM UTC
I've found Eduard's manual for their Der Roten Flieger kit - as I want to build Manfred's Dr.I. Here's the download link link.

What I don't understand is that how the cockpit walls should be painted olive drab while the whole fuselage was painted red? I thought the red colour would be seen also on the inner walls of the cockpit.
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 09:54 AM UTC
From the rules of modeling.

". . .#16.) The kit instructions may be very interesting, (especially concerning colour notations) but are 95 % of the time irrelevant. . ."

I quote that one a lot. The interior should be CDL - clear doped linen.